I would like to change format from mean/3 to avg/5. I don't see any reason to keep using mean as it's fast to scramble and the times for megaminx are faster than 5x5x5 which uses avg/5.

Sure, high-level megaminx times are faster than 5x5 times, but in practice, there are more excessively slow megaminx solvers than 5x5 solvers. (like, 7-minute solves)

I'm sorry, but people who actually practice megaminx shouldn't be penalized because of those who don't but still insist in competing in it. Getting to a 2-3 minutes average is not very difficult, everybody can manage it.I second the mean of 5 for megaminx.

I support average of 5 too, don't get me wrong. Mean of 3 is a BAD format for cubing. However, it's WRONG to say that megaminx times are faster than 5x5x5 times.

Megaminx times are faster than 5^3 times when you practice both. The problem is that many cubers want to get good at big cubes but don't care about sucking at megaminx.

It is indeed not hard to get to 3 minutes average. Johannes pointed out at speedsolving.com ([url:1g6qnade]http://www.speedsolving.com/forum/showthread.php?p=296704#post296704[/url:1g6qnade]) that the % of people under a certain time is the same for 5x5 and megaminx, so it's kinda unfair that one gets avg5 and the other doesn't. The really slow people won't be a problem, since you can always do combined rounds (you're not really letting someone do a mean of 3 when they average 7 minutes, are you? specially in a 1-day competition). Just have everybody do 1 or 2 solves and whoever gets under X time complete the average of 5. [quote="TMOY":1g6qnade] Megaminx times are faster than 5^3 times when you practice both. The problem is that many cubers want to get good at big cubes but don't care about sucking at megaminx. [/quote:1g6qnade] True, at least for me. Megaminx was much easier to get relatively fast. Now I average around 1:30-1:35 on it, but on 5x5 I can't really get faster than 2 minutes. Dan Cohen is the only exception I can think of right now, but he's the WR holder for 5x5...

[quote="TMOY":af2zfiif]Megaminx times are faster than 5^3 times when you practice both. The problem is that many cubers want to get good at big cubes but don't care about sucking at megaminx.[/quote:af2zfiif] They aren't for me... I've practiced megaminx quite a bit, and its not faster than my 5x5 times.

Another reason against the mean of 3 format (which is not meantioned here yet) is that if you have a bad solve with that format, the average is ruined already. If you are averaging let's say 1:30 and you have a 2:30 solve, it's already over for a good average. I think too that we should change it for average of 5.

I'm also in favor of the average of 5 format because: [list:3fwknxzk] [*:3fwknxzk]it's much fairer (that's why we prefer it for most other events too)[/*:m:3fwknxzk] [*:3fwknxzk]the scramble procedure has been greatly simplified a couple of years ago[/*:m:3fwknxzk] [*:3fwknxzk]puzzle build quality has improved greatly over the last few years, which facilitates both scrambling and solving[/*:m:3fwknxzk] [*:3fwknxzk]the overall level has improved; to avoid slower solvers making you fall behind schedule you can use combined rounds like we do for most other events[/*:m:3fwknxzk][/list:u:3fwknxzk]

Indeed average of 5! In our case here in the country, you see why is this a must for us and maybe for the community based on our statistics. 5x5x5 Averages Sub2---------- 6 Sub3---------- 25 Total---------- 44 Megaminx Averages Sub2----------- 14 Sub3----------- 28 Total----------- 48 Evidently Megaminx is more popular here than 5x5x5.

OK for WCA Regulations 2010. The consequence is that Megaminx events may take more time, so this may effect other events or slower Megaminx solvers.