I think we should define a main events group ( by ex.: 3x3, 4x4 and 5x5) and had this simple rule : a competition could contain side events only if it contains all the main events.

Why should it be mandatory ? What if someone wants to run, sayfor example, a BLD competition, with only BLD events ? AFAIK it has never happened yet, but it is possible by the current rules and I think it's a good thing.

[quote="TMOY":311bvgeu]Why should it be mandatory ? [/quote:311bvgeu] To avoid competitions with Magic and MasterMagic and without 5x5x5.

[quote="Frédérick":2f7evlyj]To avoid competitions with Magic and MasterMagic and without 5x5x5.[/quote:2f7evlyj] Oh boo hoo. What's the problem with that? And what if no competitor wants to compete in 5x5x5 but some in magic? Invalidate the competition?

[quote="Frédérick":1latefu2][quote="TMOY":1latefu2]Why should it be mandatory ? [/quote:1latefu2] To avoid competitions with Magic and MasterMagic and without 5x5x5.[/quote:1latefu2] What the heck are you talking about ? Retirement of Magic may be under discussion now(though i doubt it would come true) Magic is still a main event. What makes you so mean to those players? Magic is an easy event , it is . But some people do give time and heart making it sub1.0 sub 0.9 even sub 0.8 They don't really to face these moquery at all . I remember there is a sq-1 player who never participate in 3x3x3 or any main events you mentioned. Does that make you think he is not qualified to compete ?

[quote="StefanPochmann":3h5tv52v]And what if no competitor wants to compete in 5x5x5 but some in magic?[/quote:3h5tv52v] How to know if no competitor wants to compete in an event if this event is not on the program ? [quote="StefanPochmann":3h5tv52v]What's the problem with that?[/quote:3h5tv52v] The problem occurs when an interesting competition is announced before its shedule where it seems obvious main events will be held because there will be Magic, when you plan to go and begin to organize a travel. [quote="StefanPochmann":3h5tv52v]Invalidate the competition?[/quote:3h5tv52v] Of course not. My mistake was to think it's obvious the main events will be held before to plan anything. May be the 5x5x5 is a side event, but the problem would be the same with the 3x3x3 only. We need to define what a main event group could be, even if there's only the 3x3x3 in it. An example : the US Open 2009 is announced for a given date in a given town. You buy tickets earlier to go (cheaper price) and after that you learn there's no 3x3x3 event. You thought it was obvious there will be the 3x3x3. This example is just theoric, but it prooves we need something to fix about it. @chevy: it is not the point here. No problem with Magic and MasterMagic, if there's 5x5x5 too. More events, more people, more fun.

this makes no sense at all... [quote:3ummupfp] An example : the US Open 2009 is announced for a given date in a given town. You buy tickets earlier to go (cheaper price) and after that you learn there's no 3x3x3 event. You thought it was obvious there will be the 3x3x3. [/quote:3ummupfp] well, you should always check the competition website(s) to see which events will be held and which won't...

Yeah. Don't think. Read, or ask if the information isn't available yet. Also, I fail to see how it's relevant here whether an event is "main" or "side". What if I organize my trip assuming the magic event will be held and then it isn't? If what you really want is assurance about events held, then I suggest you ask for that directly instead of asking for something different that doesn't get the job done. [quote="Frédérick":16x8bqmc]The problem occurs when an interesting competition is announced before its shedule where it [b:16x8bqmc]seems obvious main events will be held because there will be Magic[/b:16x8bqmc], when you plan to go and begin to organize a travel.[/quote:16x8bqmc] In that scenario, how do you know the magic will be there?

[quote="Frédérick":2l1kumzy] An example : the US Open 2009 is announced for a given date in a given town. You buy tickets earlier to go (cheaper price) and after that you learn there's no 3x3x3 event. You thought it was obvious there will be the 3x3x3. This example is just theoric, but it prooves we need something to fix about it. [/quote:2l1kumzy] This example is just way too unlikely. No 3x3x3 speedsolve at the US Open? That's just silly. If you aren't sure that the event you want to participate in will be held, then find out, or don't pre-arrange anything. Also, as mentioned way above, this idea would prevent such a thing as a "BLD Comp" or (preferably for me ) a "BigCubes Comp".

If you are forced to include a set of puzzles in a competition then you leave little room for organisers to make their own timetable. This will make it very hard to hold medium sized 1-day competitions, if you are not allowed to leave out events if you get delayed. If you get delayed then you will cancel events that helps you to keep the timetable, such as example the 5x5x5 or the multi bld. But if you cancel a main event, then you are not, by this regulation change, allowed to hold faster side events that often has fewer competitors.

Why is this proposed regulation necessary at all? Someone can organize a competition for nothing but Rubik's Clock if he so wishes; he just shouldn't expect too many people to show up.

I do not think this regulation is necessary. Also, it would make the regulations and procedures harder, because we need a way to decide which are the main events. It is up to the competition organiser to select the events of a competition. A good organiser listens to the competitors when selecting the events. Ron