Clock, button states

[Kenneth Gustavsson]

When solving a clock we don't mind the states for the buttons when done. When scrambling on the other hand the state of the buttons is a part of the scramble. (This is a bit weird, are the buttons a part of the puzzle or not?)

Anyway, my idea is that all scrambles should have all buttons in up position as the final state, this way we don't have to put i in standing position on the surface before inspection (it is easier to cover a flat clock than a standing if nothing else).

Why that?

They fall over from time to time (lol) and when they do the buttons may change positions. So if it happens the judge have to go to the scramblers to have the buttons checked and that is time consuming.

[MadsMohr]

The pins matter when solving and when determine how you would start your solve. It's possible to get a starting position that enables you to begin your solve without adjusting the pins first. How they are after the puzzle is solved does not matter.

This reason ways more for me than making it easier for scrambles and judges.

[Kenneth Gustavsson]

Aha, but I'm not solving it, but do judge it

Have to live with it then...